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May the Dark side stop deleting your comments my friend, the Force is Strong with you! Thanks and keep Shunting Tariq BSY

We sleep on deck in a tent when we come in, at sea there is one bunk inside, and one hand on deck... It's a lumpy sea here, bashing the hulls shaking the wind out of the rig. Still I've been sailing only to windward ... Off the wind I believe she will get going Dave. I'm sorry I got alarmed by how hard it was Shunting on land, so I cut the masts down and reduced SA from 20 to 18 square meters, at sea she shunts well, so that was a mistake.... Oh well.... Yet I still haven't sailed in blow.... Keep Shunting Dave

Thanks Zack! Good luck with your boat bro ❤

You are bang brah! Donnow how??? Yet it's very lumpy here, shacking my rig and bashing my hulls. Still testing stuff, taking it easy, I expect off the wind she will take off... That's what I designed her for truly, just too much going on now, but we gonna test her hard. I couldn't shunt her on the dry, so I cut the masts down, it helped, but on the water Shunting is easy, now I'm sorry... I reduced SA from 20 to 18 square meters, fucked up.... Anyway great boat, so smooth, now back to the drawing board.... Time will tell... Keep Shunting Dominic Balkan Shipyards

@@BalkanShipyards hmm what about a drifter jib flying free sheeted to the bow? controversal but I know some junk riggers do carry such a sail and use it for windward in light air. I certainly would. I love sailing in light air - with enough canvas. If you can get a decent speed you can cover a lot of distance in great comfort. it won't feel so sloppy if you can go a bit faster. Another idea I've been considering, since I stuck a yard on my drifter that was too big... is great big really light boomless lug sail. Kinda like on a sailau but no boom, so it's just one spar. Another possibility would be the sri lanka style, with a sprit. Those look huge. Of course,, switch back to the junk once it gets to 15...

Taking the Junk off is a mess Dominic... Too many lines, too much stuff, it's almost impossible. Very heavy too... Getting up a nother sail without taking down the junk will take a lot of thinking. My head stay goes down by the yard, so it's no good, the only place would be, on deck between the hulls, now we also need a mast.... Will see bud, if you get any ideas send them over.... Keep Shunting and tacking... Balkan Shipyards ❤❤❤

@@BalkanShipyards oh no, dont take it off. Just have it down.

My Dad is British, I'm a citizen, I love the red duster.... It has a great maritime spirit. Keep Shunting John, waiting for your updates...... C u❤

I love writing my friend, when I finally get on the way I will have time for more ❤ May the Force B with you BSY

I'm very pleased with her, she has a kind motion and in ocean sailing with a stable wind and smoother water sh will probably sail very well. I reduced the size of the rig, that was a mistake, yet that could be sorted out... Happy I inspired you, keep Tacking out rigger sailor Balkan Shipyards

I had a long answer that youtube auto deleted for posting links to mamigy's video. I recall that video (number 99) as showing it as a coastal cruiser/ fishing vessel. The only version of something similar that was built is the 71ft Gaias Dream (google it) which turned out not so great. I guess if overly built you might fair better, what kind of sailing will you be doing in yours? Slainte Tariq

Hey John, thanks man. Gonna test her hard on the Black Sea, then we hope to head for Med then the Atlantic, the keep going... All d best man Balkan Shipyards

It's the red ensign mate, I'm a British citizen, and she's a British Balkan boat.... Keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards

I noticed the flag too and asked the same question. I was surprised. I had no idea you were a British citizen.

Look into 'sheet to tiller' steering, may work well for you and uses zero electricity

@@lmack3024 would that work with wheel steering? I’ve seen quite a few dinghies with simple bunnies etc but not with a wheel. We do have a tiller for emergencies (but I’ve never tested it). Thanks for the idea though

I understand Col, proas are tight!!! Our mono, Baby Mana was 22 foot and we had all we needed, a galley a head, 4 bunks, storage.... Crystal Clear is over 24 foot yet has zero accommodation and zero luxury.... Yet nothing sails like a Proa.... Keep tacking my friend, as long as you are on the water it's all good. Balkan Shipyards

​@@lmack3024that's what we plan to do....❤

​@@colrodrick8784with a tiller it should work, but it's not easy, long keels balance easier than fin keels, yet anything is possible if you are stubborn enough.... Good luck

Thanks man! Aloha from the Black Sea... Wish u lots Mana.... Keep Shunting Balkan Shipyards

Nice is close my friend, amazing would be more accurate.... A decade and a half of proa design and building has come to an end. Now it's time to sail...... Thanks bro, keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards ❤

Shuved a thick pipe down it and welded it up, did the same to the other side, All good, now, keep Shunting bro A stick, will get on it!!! Thanks ❤

@@BalkanShipyards oh good to hear!

Thanks bro!!! Sailing every day, good boat! Pozdravey ot Jenia 4u2!!!

@@BalkanShipyards Pozdravi na Jenia as well!! :)

Yes Dave, finally sailing well, very balanced helm on her too, sailing every day lots to do, as every day teaches me something new... Now gonna climb the mast again to see about a knock coming from the top, will check the welds and shackles while I'm there too. Don't know how to pin drop, though I will try and learn how to... Take care my friend Keep Shunting BSY

❤ thanks Bob, may the Force B with you my friend

Black Sea John, ugly little puddle, with short steep waves.... A rocky ride, on my mono it was hard sailing, on a multi much better! Good boat, but very little accommodation and storage, also hard to dock, so I'm finally getting the true picture of life on a Proa, a steep learning curve lays ahead.... Keep Shunting my friend, nothing sails like a Proa, that much I guarantee you, but try adding a small outboard, mine gives me so much peace of mind. Good luck, waiting to see you sailing

Very fast, about 30 seconds, pretty easy too, at the moment, Jenia helps a lot, there's quite a few things to do... But I will get better.... Keep Shunting mate, going sailing.❤

Bulgarian water, English boat. Courtesy flag flying high.... Keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards

Hey Alex so happy with her.... Miss you 2! Sorry we couldn't meet this time, waiting for the kupon, see you soon ❤❤❤

I shuved a thick pipe inside it and welded it up, put the same pipe into the other one. Just need to test this boat, then I can make new ones, maybe....

@@BalkanShipyards one way or the other you'll make it work for you.

There is no other way, my friend! Keep Shunting bro

I have other thigs to do too, so just drove 300 km home, Balkan Km, takes 4 to 5 hours..., cut off the balanced leading edge and glassed them up, maybe tomorrow evening primer... Welded them up with 22x3 mm pipes inside... I just want to sail properly and I may make new ones. Keep Shunting pal

nai dobrata!!! Maya. I na vas mnogo zdrave, dobar kasmet i usechi.... Ot nas, Rael+Jenia ubichame ta!!!

@@BalkanShipyards 💓 ☀️ 💓

Correct! just another stepping stone on the endless journey to perfection... well they are done, just came in, worked till midnight in the dojo...... So yea could shoot a shorty sowing what I did. All d best Dave

Interesting thoughts Zack, yet gone down this path too long and far for radical changes... Harry Proas are weird and too much weight to windward changes from Pacific to Atlantic or what ever else has been invented.... (there's another type they call Indian Proa which is some weird concept that I cant remember...) So yea rocker of ama VS Vaka that I will look into, the best would be making small models ant testing them. But I'm going to reinforce a rudder! Hope I get it right this time, please read the reply I wrote to Dominic Tarr, I explained why it probably bent... I hope I get it right without going overboard in weight..... Keep Shunting bro, How's yor cat???

@@BalkanShipyards Catamaran launch in 2 to 3 weeks. Been working the dock to save a little money for some down days. Looking forward to having a place to chill on the water this summer.

@@zackariasthepirate waiting for updates...Good Luck!

Thanks John, as you already know, works pretty well too..... I'm waiting for you.... Keep Shunting Man!

Thank's for raising Edison as an example... He never failed John, cos he never quit! That's the difference between failure and conclusions drawn by set backs... Once a person gives up, he has failed, if he continues he has a greater chances for success. exactly what you said, but it's a mind set. It's about believing in ones self, it's about not fearing set backs, not thinking about what others will say.... I have many friends with great dreams that are afraid to take the first step to make them come true.... Since I grew up I just say "wow, cool.... Amazing...." I know nothing's gonna happen.... Living in a heard has it's downsides I suppose.... Keep Shunting Man! How's the Surf??? By d Way....

Yea, messy stuff.... you probably got the figures right mate.... Anyway, it was a balanced rudder, made so I could get more area for a bigger sail. I hated it, zero feel!!! Balanced rudders suck!!! their leading edge bites and they fly over. So that got cut off! so less area now, less biting and spinning onto 90 degrees now.... I will push it up about 10 cm reducing leverage, giving the bad water a harder time bending it again. Finally I'm going to weld another pipe inside both my rudders with a thicker wall, see how that works.... Then maybe think about the metal frame at the bottom connected to the hull... I may be adding much bigger backing plates inside the hull.... Anyway, boat sails great for first time, very pleased. Keep Shunting, bro BSY

@@BalkanShipyards oh interesting! actually that happened to me with the latest iteration of my self steering (which isn't a video yet, but soon) I wanted a more powerful servo fin so I gave it some balance... it worked at small angles, but at big angles it jammed on and then went hard to the side. I disagree balanced rudders are bad... too much balance is bad. I'm gonna just cut off some of the balance. Enough balance to make a lighter helm, but enough trail so that the flow will turn it back to center on it's own and you'll have some feel. Definitely eager to see Crystal Clear sailing! Winter is starting here...

I will fix it, by putting a thicker pipe inside and welding it, I will do the same to the other one too. It was a Stainless steel pipe 25x1.5mm the wall was too thin... Keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards

@@BalkanShipyards Yes sounds good. Thank you. Keep shunting.

Yea Peter, I will cut it and weld a thick pipe inside it, this was a 25x1.5mm SS pipe... Thin wall....

We Live We Learn... Now we make it stronger.... Keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards

Ha Ha.... Yea man, we live we learn, making everything much stronger now... Yea Mr Musk doesn't give up easy!!! neither do I... The Force is with U my friend!

Thanks Matt! you know it better than many others bro.... it's been a long haul, yet I'm pleased, now it's time for fine tuning, lots to do, first CE must go a touch aft (on a Junk it's pretty easy) then some rudder issues.... and more stuff.... Keep Shunting brah, Balkan Shipyards

@@BalkanShipyards Yes there's always more to do Rael but keep up the good work and you will get there. Just enjoy the process and appreciate when you have a good sail and all the learnings!

@@MattTucker I wish u the same! U built an amazing Proa, I hope you get back to it and fix it up.... Crystal Clear No1 on our second sail during 2016 landed us on the rocks after a bad shunt that got us backwinded coming out of a bay.... A bad day it was Matt... Then came 'Why Not?' then "Make O'Break" and finally Crystal Clear No2.... it's been a long haul.... you never failed till u quit! Keep Shunting brah Balkan Shipyards

Thanks Zack! lots to bro, gotta move stuff, fix stuff.... think about shade for when we're on the hook.... it never ends! but it's a good base, so the build goes on. Good luck with your cat man, keep tacking! Balkan Shipyards

Wow, never touched one, though I think they like sail boats, since in all my cruising many have followed me on my mono, but even more come since I've been sailing proas. Big groups that stay for a long way, I suppose they see something different, that is more interesting.... I also feel Orcas will let me go, it's the teenagers that chew up rudders, so In my case one of the babysitters will tell'em "this one needs to far, leave it's rudders alone!" I hope you're well John, may the Force b with u C u later on.... Keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards

Thanx Peter, it's great to finally sail again.... Keep Tacking my friend!

You nailed it Dave, yet it's simpler to get used to it.... Taking this deck off is lot's of work, so I doubt I'll be doing it soon..... Though when it get wet it quiets down. Yet good responsive boat, I'm very pleased! Take care Dave, and keep Shunting! BSY

This girl is a touch harder to shunt than Make O'Break, yet still easy and fast enough. So, I think I will..... May the Force B with U bro! BSY

Thank U, Keep Shunting, Balkan Shipyards

It's great! true! The Force is with U bro BSY

Great wishes brother, may the Force B with U2 and hear your call... Yea, I'm very pleased, boat proved to be a good base, now starts the fine tuning, still lots to do! More to come... Keep Shunting, BSY

Yea, she's very smooth vs Make O'Break which would clonck along with his wide flat bottom.... Thanks bro!

Thanks Kremy! yea, a long road comes to an end.... Happy u like her name, names say a lot... Take care! Balkan Shipyards

Thanks Alex!!! So happy U like her my friend. Can't wait for our next kupon.... c u soon!

@@BalkanShipyards I am waiting!!!!!😊

Dominic, u got me grinning mate... Tally Ho is quite the ship, though we're multy people bro, mono guys just don't get it, they probably never will..... ha ha ha.... just joking, I love monos!!! Anyway more shunting coming soon... Stay warm, Keep jibing, and shunting.... BSY

Thanks for everything Hardy! U saved my sail... She's great, in a blow she flies!!! Take care my friend ❤

Thanks bro! All d best!!! BSY